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deadmonkey4u · Sep 04, 2006, 09:18 PM // 21:18

Seeing as how the monk item thread was fairly popular heres a few areas im unsure of and would like to be sure.

First do people get ebon mods specifically because noone really brings +earth armor or is their some other reason. I thought all elemental was fairly similiar in that it negates some +physical bonuses people carry such as a warrior.

Next: about the NPC's

Here are my assumptions on the types of armor guild npcs have

Footmen (I guess warrior so I use elemental)

Ranger (I guess +al vs elemental so I use a vamp wep)

Bodyguards (no clue usually just using my zealous)

Guild Lord (no clue again)

Guillaume De Sonoma · Sep 04, 2006, 10:03 PM // 22:03

Rangers don't have elemental resistance unless that has changed recently.

deadmonkey4u · Sep 04, 2006, 10:10 PM // 22:10

I have no idea these are only guesses I want to verify the correct info

Wasteland Squidget · Sep 04, 2006, 10:57 PM // 22:57

From team-iQ:

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Originally Posted by Zrave

Archer has 80 armor, no bonus vs elemental. I would guess they have 480 health.

Bodyguard has 60 armor.

Also, last time I checked all the archers have the same bow model. Footmen do have different weapons though.

sir lockt · Sep 05, 2006, 06:35 AM // 06:35

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Originally Posted by deadmonkey4u

First do people get ebon mods specifically because noone really brings +earth armor

yes...

What is quite remarkable: this is a quote from gw wiki :

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Originally Posted by wiki

Ebon is the least popular elemental weapons modifier, since there is no Conjure Earth spell available to Elementalists, and the Conjure spells are one of the most common reasons to use an elemental weapon.

JR · Sep 05, 2006, 06:41 AM // 06:41

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Originally Posted by sir lockt

What is quite remarkable: this is a quote from gw wiki :

Sadly GWWiki is full of misinformation and nonsense.

Prosthetic · Sep 06, 2006, 03:39 AM // 03:39

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Originally Posted by deadmonkey4u

First do people get ebon mods specifically because noone really brings +earth armor or is their some other reason.

I just thought Ebon sounded the coolest... How many people bring armour vs a specific element anyway? Even if they did have +elemental armour, you would probably be hitting them with physical.

For PvE some people like Icy for use with spinal shivers.

Patrograd · Sep 06, 2006, 07:06 AM // 07:06

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Originally Posted by Prosthetic

How many people bring armour vs a specific element anyway? .

Eles and rangers for the most part.

Personally I think that the difference between using ebon over for example icy is pretty marginal against targets with resistence to physical attacks, but in general you need to try and stack all these tiny marginal differences imo

stueyman2099 · Sep 06, 2006, 07:47 AM // 07:47

Being realistic though, the only time you want to use an elemental mod in combat is when attacking a warrior, to null thier absorbtion, and 20 phys AL. Attacking anything else, you want to use a vampiric (or other mod based on need, zealous, furious, w/e)

Thom Bangalter · Sep 06, 2006, 01:59 PM // 13:59

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Originally Posted by stueyman2099

Being realistic though, the only time you want to use an elemental mod in combat is when attacking a warrior, to null thier absorbtion, and 20 phys AL. Attacking anything else, you want to use a vampiric (or other mod based on need, zealous, furious, w/e)

almost never do I promote the use of a furious mod; I've never been in a situation where I'm like "Man, I really need double adrenaline every 1 out of 10 hits."

If, for some reason, I ever needed to roll a pvp warrior (my pve guy is good to go) I would probably go with an ebon weapon, and a vampiric weapon. fortunately my warrior is pve ready, I keep a wand and a zealous weapon in my other two slots. Deep down I'd like six weaponslots, for probably a furious mod (god knows why I'd need it) and a bow or something, though the other slot would just be more for a convenience for casters I might roll.

TheOneMephisto · Sep 06, 2006, 10:19 PM // 22:19

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Originally Posted by Prosthetic

I just thought Ebon sounded the coolest... How many people bring armour vs a specific element anyway? Even if they did have +elemental armour, you would probably be hitting them with physical.

For PvE some people like Icy for use with spinal shivers.

I dunno, I've used vs. water and vs. lightning armor on runners.

Wasteland Squidget · Sep 07, 2006, 01:47 AM // 01:47

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Originally Posted by Thom Bangalter

almost never do I promote the use of a furious mod; I've never been in a situation where I'm like "Man, I really need double adrenaline every 1 out of 10 hits."

If, for some reason, I ever needed to roll a pvp warrior (my pve guy is good to go) I would probably go with an ebon weapon, and a vampiric weapon. fortunately my warrior is pve ready, I keep a wand and a zealous weapon in my other two slots. Deep down I'd like six weaponslots, for probably a furious mod (god knows why I'd need it) and a bow or something, though the other slot would just be more for a convenience for casters I might roll.

Furious can be worth switching to specifically to use TTL. Unless its been fixed recently, Furious has a 10% chance of doubling TTL's adrenaline gain.

Thomas.knbk · Sep 08, 2006, 10:56 AM // 10:56

Also, furious has a 10% chance to give you 10 strikes of adrenaline from Dragon Slash, allowing you to instantly use it again

Nortos · Sep 12, 2006, 07:00 AM // 07:00

Eles have +against elemental and it acts as say 80 armor rangers have 100 armor against elementals base70+30+15 for another unlees health armor or energy armor.
I would guess bodyguards have ele armor base maybe health and archers have ranger armor. I would also say the Guild Lord has a base armor of 100 and no+against so and so as do same dmg on him as armor 100 pple cept deep wound heals him and he cnt be degened ta death.
Lots of pple take ebon (me as one of them) because runners who r fine on energy take armor against air or water because besides the ranger 2 most common runners r air and water so icy and shocking wnt be as nice. And some gankers take armor vsfire because their gankers and gank bodyguards so ebon really is the best choice

Sabe · Sep 13, 2006, 01:21 PM // 13:21

If we're talking bout a warrior I dont see what difference it really makes - coz you only really need to change to elemental weapon if fighting another warrior, otherwise physical dmg either zealous, vampiric w/e is fine against the other classes.

JR · Sep 13, 2006, 02:55 PM // 14:55

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Originally Posted by Sabe

If we're talking bout a warrior I dont see what difference it really makes - coz you only really need to change to elemental weapon if fighting another warrior, otherwise physical dmg either zealous, vampiric w/e is fine against the other classes.

Indeed, it doesn't. It is just on the off chance that you forget to switch before spiking someone else, after attacking a Warrior. Really not very important at all, but it doesn't cost you anything to take that extra precaution either.

Skuld · Sep 13, 2006, 03:13 PM // 15:13

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Originally Posted by sir lockt

yes...

What is quite remarkable: this is a quote from gw wiki :

Got rid of it. Couldn't you have just deleted it yourself? :/

Ensign · Sep 13, 2006, 08:04 PM // 20:04

Rarely you'll see +vs Lightning on an elementalist, but in general you never see +armor vs a specific element on a character's armor.

However, +10 vs type is a very good mod on shields, and people switch those around pretty regularly in PvP. It's most relevant for warriors, since people like to attack them with elemental weapons, but casters will carry +vs piercing and +vs lightning shields as well.

Peace,
-CxE

Shadow-Hunter · Sep 13, 2006, 08:25 PM // 20:25

Meh, while Playing as a Warrior i chance weapon alot.. Most of the time i even attack the Monks with My ebon weapon... Simpley Becouse alot of Monks use Armor with 10 vs Pysical, and -2 Pysical dmg shield, hell maybe even 10+ vs Slashing Defence.. But then again, i use a PvE char so i make use of All my Weapon slots for Zealous, Vamp and Ranged Weapon...

~Shadow

Gigashadow · Sep 13, 2006, 08:26 PM // 20:26

Would +vs slashing be better for a caster to have, as that is most axes, swords, and some daggers, whereas piercing is bows, some daggers, a very few axes, and minions?